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Anecdotally, as someone who has been on the other side of that debate, I very quickly got fed up with the constant goal post shifting. Not having any luck on the apps? You aren't really trying, have to approach in person. You did that, but none of the women you know are single? You aren't really trying, meet new people. You tried that, but the places you might go to do that are all male-dominated? You aren't really trying, get new hobbies (but of course pretend meeting women isn't why you are doing that). After a while I realized that no amount of effort would actually get anyone to admit that I was in fact trying.

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I was expecting to be annoyed (as I usually am with the use of the term), but found myself in furious agreement with most of the article. As I've been saying for years now, the term "incel" no longer means anything, and indeed equating lack of sexual/romantic success with misogyny just objectifies women. I'll also add that 99.9% of the discourse on incels isn't people identifying as such, but other people, usually progressives, using it as a slur. Incels are just a convenient boogeyman because our culture got stuck in high school, where it was cool to mock virgins.

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