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Firstly hate the word kink being used for everyone’s sexual tastes.

Secondly people into bdsm often don’t want to admit that the *dynamic* that they like is actually the most normie shit that was in bodice rippers from the 1940s. So instead they criticize any sort of aesthetic depiction of it as not good enough or valid enough or accurate enough cause they see it as *normalizing*.

Girl, it’s been the most normal thing since grug the cavemen dragged his cavegirl into the cave. Get real!

Anyway my theory is that they try to *differentiate* themselves from the norm by talking about the more unpleasant things they do in the service of this dynamic (spitting etc) because grossing out normies is part of their fetish. It wouldn’t be as much fun without bringing in the *lets disgust suburban mom and dad* factor. In that sense this is the horseshoe theory of where tradwives and kink meet. They both enjoy the public shock at their sexuality almost as much as the sex itself.

I have had men asking me if I’m into BDSM and been UPSET that I just blink and say I like rough housing like a normie. They want to be able to say they are edgy and special. You’re not that special — men were carrying naughty women on their shoulders to teach her a lesson behind closed doors in the Australian outback romances that my grand aunt read.

Speaking of which some of the discomfort that both normie liberal and kinky men have with this old school masculinity is that it requires effort. Just like makeup and pretty dresses and high heels are hard work but enjoyable as a heightened type of femininity which you must feel/embody if you don’t want to look like a clown, being able to be a tough masculine man takes hard work and you need to stop being a PlayStation boy for at least 30 mins and you can’t use a ball gag or whatever is the kink-toy du jour. You need to feel/embody that masculinity for the woman to take you seriously and not start laughing. So they chafe at it cause neither type of man wants to make an effort.

This also leads to incel men pathologising women for liking rough sex. They are sickened by the fantasies women have of a strong man who carries them away in an uncontrollable expression of his desire. Often the strongest women have the highest such desire - meaning you must be a very masculine man to be able to ahem “take her”. But since zero effort slobs chafe at the very idea of putting in any work and want everything neatly handed to them like mommy used to make curated meal plates - they resent it and then pathologize it and mock it. Meanwhile women get even more disappointed in real men and retreat into complete fantasies of what is it now - giant fairy men who take the heroine hostage? I get it. I totally get it

I haven’t reached the point of a fairy man fantasy yet. I’m still reading wholesome bodice rippers about Italian men and pirates taking you hostage in a bedroom sharing trope. Or Australian outback romances with an enemies to lovers trope. Some of these older authors are realllyyyyy good.

But most of these books were written in the 40s-60s. Men thought it was cute and amusing for women to read such books. Now men seem to hate these books with a passion while they have watched more naked women doing depraved things on screen by age 20 than their grandpa or dad did in his entire lifetime. Make it make sense.

Abigail A Mlinar Burns's avatar

When we ‘unlearned shame’ around our kinks, we had to offload the energy onto others 🤪

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