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I apologize for starting off with the most hipsteresque thing I've ever said, but you might be too young to grasp the first wave of hipsters - they were thick on the ground by 2002-2003. (A couple of good delineating points - the record store employees in High Fidelity aren't hipsters, but a lot of dudes who saw that movie and "got into vinyl" are; American Apparel and their Polaroid porn aesthetic shows up around this time; craft cocktails bars become a thing; most of the indie rock bands you'd most associate with hipsters had breakout albums by 2004.) Any 16-year-olds you're encountering in this style are just reflections of older siblings and media, and Hymen and company are more of an aggro "weird out the normies" subculture that's ever-present in high school/college; a clothing update for the kids in The Craft. Their modern equivalents are off shitposting somewhere as we speak, and probably in the tank for Trump.

As too what that hipster wave was, I think a lot of it was rejecting modernity (which at the time was the War on Terror, an ascending Republican majority and a suddenly pop, teen-infused popular culture) in favor of a cheap (the dotcom hangover was in full swing), thrift store aesthetic where you could deep dive into things and then annoy the fuck out people with holier-than-thou pissing contests about it. It overlaps with peak Lit Bro and a couple of other trends the internet still complains about despite having long vanished. Oddly enough craft brewing wasn't a big part of it - that group seemed to be an older, less cool crowd.

You're right that around 2010 it shifts to a new, porkpie hat and suspenders, craft brewing, distressed wood style. The Great Recession pushes a lot of people into the small-craft lifestyle around this time - I met my first twenty-something stained-glass artisan married to a professional woman hereabouts - and gentrification becomes the huge argument of the day. There's probably an argument to be made that Obama's success, plus Republicans the administration as hipster (remember the dustup about the guy in the Obamacare ad in glasses and a pajama onesie?) pushing a lot of people into being hipster-lite. Then it all collapses in the mid-2010's and people move on to other styles, with the stereotypical hipster remaining only as a strawman for internet debates.

As to where are those types of people now? Mostly off the internet, I suppose. Everyone likes to say streaming algorithms killed hipsters, but they're still behind the scenes pushing most of the content on streaming: https://www.vulture.com/2023/04/spotify-discover-weekly-songs-essay.html I think the context collapse of social media pushes a lot of this stuff out of view - when you truly want to avoid it, you don't move out to the country and make farm videos, you just... don't post things publicly. You just go about your day with niche fashions and niche interests, and the world at large doesn't know you exist.

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Another important element of the downfall of hipsters is the ubiquity of streaming. Even during the time of the early internet, if you wanted to find, say Moondog or Captain Beefheart, you had to already know who they were, whether it be by listening to college radio or reading about them, and then be willing to make the trek to the local record store and talk to a clerk who Knows About Such Things as part of an initiation rite. Now, you can just go to Spotify's curated "American Originals" playlist and listen to Connie Converse or the Shaggs and call it a day.

To be clear, I think that the leveling of culture is in many ways really great! There's tons of music that is getting inifinitely more exposure than it would have otherwise. But with exposure comes a loss of cachet, and cachet was the bread and butter of hipsters.

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