Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Craig's avatar

I apologize for starting off with the most hipsteresque thing I've ever said, but you might be too young to grasp the first wave of hipsters - they were thick on the ground by 2002-2003. (A couple of good delineating points - the record store employees in High Fidelity aren't hipsters, but a lot of dudes who saw that movie and "got into vinyl" are; American Apparel and their Polaroid porn aesthetic shows up around this time; craft cocktails bars become a thing; most of the indie rock bands you'd most associate with hipsters had breakout albums by 2004.) Any 16-year-olds you're encountering in this style are just reflections of older siblings and media, and Hymen and company are more of an aggro "weird out the normies" subculture that's ever-present in high school/college; a clothing update for the kids in The Craft. Their modern equivalents are off shitposting somewhere as we speak, and probably in the tank for Trump.

As too what that hipster wave was, I think a lot of it was rejecting modernity (which at the time was the War on Terror, an ascending Republican majority and a suddenly pop, teen-infused popular culture) in favor of a cheap (the dotcom hangover was in full swing), thrift store aesthetic where you could deep dive into things and then annoy the fuck out people with holier-than-thou pissing contests about it. It overlaps with peak Lit Bro and a couple of other trends the internet still complains about despite having long vanished. Oddly enough craft brewing wasn't a big part of it - that group seemed to be an older, less cool crowd.

You're right that around 2010 it shifts to a new, porkpie hat and suspenders, craft brewing, distressed wood style. The Great Recession pushes a lot of people into the small-craft lifestyle around this time - I met my first twenty-something stained-glass artisan married to a professional woman hereabouts - and gentrification becomes the huge argument of the day. There's probably an argument to be made that Obama's success, plus Republicans the administration as hipster (remember the dustup about the guy in the Obamacare ad in glasses and a pajama onesie?) pushing a lot of people into being hipster-lite. Then it all collapses in the mid-2010's and people move on to other styles, with the stereotypical hipster remaining only as a strawman for internet debates.

As to where are those types of people now? Mostly off the internet, I suppose. Everyone likes to say streaming algorithms killed hipsters, but they're still behind the scenes pushing most of the content on streaming: https://www.vulture.com/2023/04/spotify-discover-weekly-songs-essay.html I think the context collapse of social media pushes a lot of this stuff out of view - when you truly want to avoid it, you don't move out to the country and make farm videos, you just... don't post things publicly. You just go about your day with niche fashions and niche interests, and the world at large doesn't know you exist.

Expand full comment
John Smith's avatar

Yeah, I think basically what happened was that things that were "indie" became mainstream, or there was sort of a corporate mainstream version of it (Mumford and Sons is the perfect example) and just society just got a bit nicer and more sincere in the Obama era, so the asshole too-cool-for-school attitude was replaced by a sort of earnest and nerdy love for literature or folklore or whatever else.

That actually raises an interesting question: was 00s hipsterdom partially a reaction to George Bush and the right wing that became passe, replaced by "leaning in" and such?

Expand full comment
91 more comments...

No posts