I'm definitely not a pickme but I've been highly tolerant of weird behavior, mostly because im curious to see how it pans out. I'd totally not mind if someone used a chatbot while dating online, and I definitely wouldn't put people on blast unless they were being abusive or something because, hey, how will anyone find their special someone if they'll get publicly shamed for just being themselves? If anything, sharing your online dating texts on the internet for no purpose other than to mock seems like antisocial behavior.
I would find it embarrassing to learn I'd been flirting with a chatbot. I would probably block the number out of embarrassment but I can see why someone else would get angry.
Not a woman though, but I can't think of any scenario where I'd be happy finding out that the person I thought I was connecting with was a bot.
Yeah I thought his disclosure was reasonable and well-timed. I definitely wouldn’t have stopped dating him because of just this in my dating days - maybe passed around a screenshot to my friends but that’s it. He could be an asshole for other reasons of course.
We need a name for a phenomenon where ppl call others losers themselves are oftentimes prototypical losers.
Also, as someone growing up in Japan, I've been fascinated by the fact that loser is the most common insult in America - idk how other languages or countries are but I'd say the most common insult in Japanese is either idiot or lunatic (there's so many variations of these two in Japanese)
Often, if you call someone an idiot or lunatic in the US, you get accused of ableism, because both words used to be used as official classifications for intellectually disabled people in the US. (But there still are a lot of Americans who call people idiots and would laugh at being accused of ableism.)
Tweeting indications that you think about the sex life of a politician who has never been implicated in a sex scandal feels like a self-own. Doubly so if the politician in question is gay and you’re homophobic. Triply so if you’re doing it under your own name.
Personally using a chatbot for your dating app responses sounds humiliating, even more so to admit (but good on him for being honest!). On the other hand, I think people sharing dating app interactions to go viral is also bad behavior, no true winners here. I do lean towards thinking it's a viral marketing scheme for the guy's app.
It’s wild to see people flaming out for using a chatbot to help them with matches. Like, people started automating tinder 10+ years ago and chatbots are kind of everywhere today!
In this case to try to impress her with the fact he was working in AI. Lots of people are kind of over AI though so that probably also factored into her response
It's what he does for a living. Had he not told her then, and his career came up in conversation on their date, do you really think she wouldn't ask if he used one with her? He's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. I think it's smart he tells potential dates beforehand to avoid meeting up with a woman who could turn out to be irrationally angry or insulted.
If you're gonna go partial Cyrano de Bergerac, why not just go full Cyrano and send the pretty girl some beautiful poetry? Then she can at least fall in love with your product and you've got a real story going. I'm personally offended that he used a chatbot to send this absolutely lower-mid pickup line, which if I were her I would assume he cribbed from reddit anyway.
When I first read the headline to this article, I thought that "Yam Tits" was going to be some new kind of breast-look that women were going for, like "hot dog legs" or whatnot. I was relieved to find that it was merely a joke about the Orange One. Yam Tits did not sound very appealling as a look for female breasts.
I'm surprised at how many commenters are okay-ish with the chatbot thing. As someone who is currently using Hinge very actively let me just state this clearly: in my book, it is not okay to use a chatbot to message your matches.
One of the things that makes dating via apps so difficult is the very low level of trust. The people you agree to go out with are complete and total strangers. By contrast, when you meet someone IRL, and especially through mutual connections, there's a level of pre-vetting that you just don't have on the apps. It's very easy for less-than-honorable users to significantly misrepresent themselves when the only vetting available to people is a few photos and some text. Most people won't agree to a date unless they enjoy the messaging phase, so finding out that it wasn't the actual person messaging you would feel like you've been lied to, no different than being catfished or having the person blatantly lie about their height. I'm guessing the guy really didn't mean any harm given that he disclosed this before the date, but if he had put that he was 6'1" on his profile and then later disclosed that he was really 5'7" I think the reaction here would've been strongly and uniformly negative.
If you've been on dating apps in the last couple of years you've probably noticed, as I have, the increasing number of (actual) bot profiles and AI-generated/brushed images that are out there, to the point where it can sometimes be hard for people to know what's real or not. And the risk of bad dates is, unfortunately, borne disproportionately by women. I think for that reason a lot of women have sworn off apps altogether, which is bad for them, but also bad for the honest men still on the apps. A low trust environment is bad for everyone. Although I can't prove it, it has felt to me like the pool of people has shrunk on the apps recently, and when you do meet people the standard feels almost impossibly high. It's all understandable but it's also a very bad thing if you care about people being able to partner up.
I'm definitely not a pickme but I've been highly tolerant of weird behavior, mostly because im curious to see how it pans out. I'd totally not mind if someone used a chatbot while dating online, and I definitely wouldn't put people on blast unless they were being abusive or something because, hey, how will anyone find their special someone if they'll get publicly shamed for just being themselves? If anything, sharing your online dating texts on the internet for no purpose other than to mock seems like antisocial behavior.
A lot of things are worth roasting to your group of friends but not the entire world. But it's easy clout to do the latter.
Yeah totally
I would find it embarrassing to learn I'd been flirting with a chatbot. I would probably block the number out of embarrassment but I can see why someone else would get angry.
Not a woman though, but I can't think of any scenario where I'd be happy finding out that the person I thought I was connecting with was a bot.
Yeah I thought his disclosure was reasonable and well-timed. I definitely wouldn’t have stopped dating him because of just this in my dating days - maybe passed around a screenshot to my friends but that’s it. He could be an asshole for other reasons of course.
_She_ could be a raging asshole herself. In fact, that seems more likely here.
Sure, plenty of assholery to go around. And publicizing that message doesn’t seem to bode well.
I don't know why people keep coming for Menswear Guy, he never fails!
“i list watches. you’re on a watchlist.”
These have hands, you were handsy.
We need a name for a phenomenon where ppl call others losers themselves are oftentimes prototypical losers.
Also, as someone growing up in Japan, I've been fascinated by the fact that loser is the most common insult in America - idk how other languages or countries are but I'd say the most common insult in Japanese is either idiot or lunatic (there's so many variations of these two in Japanese)
Great big lunatics tend to do ok here in America for real 😥
Often, if you call someone an idiot or lunatic in the US, you get accused of ableism, because both words used to be used as official classifications for intellectually disabled people in the US. (But there still are a lot of Americans who call people idiots and would laugh at being accused of ableism.)
Tweeting indications that you think about the sex life of a politician who has never been implicated in a sex scandal feels like a self-own. Doubly so if the politician in question is gay and you’re homophobic. Triply so if you’re doing it under your own name.
Personally using a chatbot for your dating app responses sounds humiliating, even more so to admit (but good on him for being honest!). On the other hand, I think people sharing dating app interactions to go viral is also bad behavior, no true winners here. I do lean towards thinking it's a viral marketing scheme for the guy's app.
Very honored the Yam Tits saga made it into the paper of record for online nonsense
It’s wild to see people flaming out for using a chatbot to help them with matches. Like, people started automating tinder 10+ years ago and chatbots are kind of everywhere today!
In this case to try to impress her with the fact he was working in AI. Lots of people are kind of over AI though so that probably also factored into her response
It's what he does for a living. Had he not told her then, and his career came up in conversation on their date, do you really think she wouldn't ask if he used one with her? He's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. I think it's smart he tells potential dates beforehand to avoid meeting up with a woman who could turn out to be irrationally angry or insulted.
If you're gonna go partial Cyrano de Bergerac, why not just go full Cyrano and send the pretty girl some beautiful poetry? Then she can at least fall in love with your product and you've got a real story going. I'm personally offended that he used a chatbot to send this absolutely lower-mid pickup line, which if I were her I would assume he cribbed from reddit anyway.
When I first read the headline to this article, I thought that "Yam Tits" was going to be some new kind of breast-look that women were going for, like "hot dog legs" or whatnot. I was relieved to find that it was merely a joke about the Orange One. Yam Tits did not sound very appealling as a look for female breasts.
Continuation of the DeepSeek thread (presumably faked, but still very funny): https://x.com/TrungTPhan/status/1885803171056107740?t=z2FjgY5c5SjH5VDuErN3oQ&s=19
I'm surprised at how many commenters are okay-ish with the chatbot thing. As someone who is currently using Hinge very actively let me just state this clearly: in my book, it is not okay to use a chatbot to message your matches.
One of the things that makes dating via apps so difficult is the very low level of trust. The people you agree to go out with are complete and total strangers. By contrast, when you meet someone IRL, and especially through mutual connections, there's a level of pre-vetting that you just don't have on the apps. It's very easy for less-than-honorable users to significantly misrepresent themselves when the only vetting available to people is a few photos and some text. Most people won't agree to a date unless they enjoy the messaging phase, so finding out that it wasn't the actual person messaging you would feel like you've been lied to, no different than being catfished or having the person blatantly lie about their height. I'm guessing the guy really didn't mean any harm given that he disclosed this before the date, but if he had put that he was 6'1" on his profile and then later disclosed that he was really 5'7" I think the reaction here would've been strongly and uniformly negative.
If you've been on dating apps in the last couple of years you've probably noticed, as I have, the increasing number of (actual) bot profiles and AI-generated/brushed images that are out there, to the point where it can sometimes be hard for people to know what's real or not. And the risk of bad dates is, unfortunately, borne disproportionately by women. I think for that reason a lot of women have sworn off apps altogether, which is bad for them, but also bad for the honest men still on the apps. A low trust environment is bad for everyone. Although I can't prove it, it has felt to me like the pool of people has shrunk on the apps recently, and when you do meet people the standard feels almost impossibly high. It's all understandable but it's also a very bad thing if you care about people being able to partner up.
Lots (almost exclusively!) dunking on men this week. Good work, all!
lol @ Tyler
“Methinks the simp doth protest too much”
I don't get what's funny about the Joey Mannarino tweet. What am I missing?
It’s not so much “him being funny” and more “me making fun of him”